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Clean Carfax S60r Awd Sunroof Leather Sports Pkg Active Suspension 85k Low Miles on 2040-cars

US $9,980.00
Year:2004 Mileage:85195 Color: Black /
 Black
Location:

Houston, Texas, United States

Houston, Texas, United States
For Sale By:Dealer
Engine:I5 2.5L DOHC
Fuel Type:GAS
Transmission:Automatic
Body Type:Sedan
Vehicle Title:Clear
Condition:

Used

VIN (Vehicle Identification Number)
: YV1RH52Y842383528
Year: 2004
Make: Volvo
Doors: 4
Model: S60
Fuel: Gasoline
Drivetrain: AWD
Mileage: 85,195
Trim: R Sedan 4-Door
Sub Model: S60R AWD
Drive Type: AWD
Exterior Color: Black
Number of Cylinders: 5
Interior Color: Black
Warranty: No

2004 Volvo S60 S60R AWD 4-Door Sedan
Exterior Color:     Black Sapphire Metallic Interior Color:     Nordkap Black/Blue Stock Number:383528
Mileage:85,195 Engine:I5 2.5L DOHC Fuel:Gasoline
Transmission:Automatic Warranty:As Is - No Warranty Title:Clear
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Vehicle Description
Ultimate Motorsport Presents
 
2004 Volvo S60R
All Wheel Drive
 
SUNROOF ! LEATHER !  ALLOYS !  ALUMINUM ! XENONS !
PRO-LOGIC SOUND SYSTEM !
COLD WEATHER PACKAGE !
R-SERIES ! SPORTS PACKAGE !
ACTIVE SUSPENSION ! AWD !
 
CLEAN LOADED VOLVO S60 R WITH 85K ORIGINAL MILES
 
CLEAN CARFAX NO ACCIDENTS
CLEAN AUTOCHECK NO ACCIDENTS
CLICK ON CARFAX OR AUTOCHECK LOGO ABOVE FOR FREE FULL REPORT !
 
ADD A 3 MONTH 3,000 MILE WARRANTY
FOR ONLY $ 295
ASK US FOR DETAILS ON A 4 YEAR UNLIMITED MILES NATION WIDE WARRANTY !!
 
PEACE OF MIND ! BUY WITH CONFIDENCE !!
 
60+ PICTURES BELOW AFTER DESCRIPTION
 
THIS CAR IS LOADED WITH THESE OPTIONS:
SUNROOF WITH POWER SLIDING GLASS
XENON HEADLIGHTS
TELESCOPING  STEERING WHEEL WITH CONTROLS
CRUISE CONTROL
DUAL ZONE AC AND HEAT
ALARM SYSTEM WITH KEYLESS ENTRY
FULL LEATHER AND ALUMINUM TRIM INTERIOR
TINTED WINDOWS
2.5 LITER 5 CYLINDER
BOOK WITH KEY
POWER HEATED LEATHER SEATS WITH MEMORY AND LUMBAR
PRO LOGIC SOUND SYSTEM WITH CD CHANGER AM FM XM RADIO
POWER WINDOWS AND MIRRORS
TRACTION CONTROL
PREMIUM ALLOY 18”  WHEELS
REAR SPOILER
ALL WHEEL DRIVE
ACTIVE SUSPENSION
R-SERIES
 
 
MUCH MUCH MORE SEE IT TO BELIEVE IT !!!
 
Beautiful BLACK SAPPHIRE METALLIC on
BLACK LEATHER WITH ALUMINUM TRIM  Interior!!
 
Low Buy It NOW or Make us an Offer NOW!!

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Original $ 40,000 Price!!!
COMPARE AT

OUR BUY IT NOW $ 9,980
WOW ! WHAT A DEAL  !!!
 
 
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281-506-8808

If You are Looking for a VOLVO S60 R AWD with all the options with LOW MILES, You Don't Have to Look any Further!!!
DON'T SLEEP ON THIS ONE!

NOTE: JUST LIKE ANY USED VEHICLE FEW VERY MINOR NICK NACKS DUE TO NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR AND ROAD DEBRIS.
REMEMBER: YOU ARE BUYING A TOP LOADED USED VEHICLE IN CLEAN CONDITION NOT A BRAND NEW ONE!

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Only at ULTIMATE MOTORSPORT !!
Good Luck & Happy Bidding!!!
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So, If you are in the market for a LATE MODEL, VERY AFFORDABLE VOLVO S60 R AWD, then you owe it to yourself to take a closer look

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Visit
10311 Altonbury Lane
Houston TX 77031
 
 
 
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POWER SUNROOF!
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FULL LEATHER INTERIOR!
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TILT STEERING WITH CONTROLS!
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XM SATELLITE RADIO EQUIPPED! 
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ACTIVE CHASSIS!
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DUAL CLIMATE CONTROL AND HEATED SEATS!
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POWER HEATED SEATS!
 
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SPACIOUS 5 PASSENGER SEATING!
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PLENTY OF LEG ROOM!
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AMPLE CARGO SPACE!
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PREMIUM ALLOY WHEELS!
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Contact Information
Name: Sales Department Main Phone: (281) 506-8808 Alt. Phone: (281) 657-7293
Vehicle Features & Options
Standard Features
Appearance /
  Exterior:
  • Rear Spoiler
    Appearance /
      Interior:
    • Aluminum Accents
      Comfort:
      • Front Air Conditioning
      • Dual Front Air Conditioning Zones
      • Automatic Climate Control Front Air Conditioning
      • Alloy and Leather Shift Knob Trim
      • Leather Steering Wheel Trim
      Convenience:
      • Center Console
      • Cruise Control
      • Includes Driver Seat
      • Keyless Entry Multi-Function Remote
      • Power Steering
      • Remote Trunk Release
      • Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Controls
      • Tilt and Telescopic Steering Wheel
      • Garage Door Opener Universal Remote Transmitter
      Drivetrain /
        Suspension:
      • 4-Wheel ABS
      • Center Limited Slip Differential
      • Power
      • Stability Control
      • Electronic Suspension Control
      • Traction Control
      Entertainment /
        Telematics:
      • Cassette
      • Clock
      • Single Disc In-Dash CD
      • AM/FM Radio
      • Tachometer
      • Trip Computer
      Exterior:
      • Daytime Running Lights
      • Exterior Entry Lights
      • Front Fog Lights
      • Headlight Cleaners
      • Xenon Headlights
      Rims / Tires:
      • 17 Inch Wheel Diameter
      • Alloy Wheel
      Roof / Glass:
      • Intermittent Front Wipers
      • Power Windows
      • Rear Defogger
      Safety:
      • Alarm Anti-Theft System
      • Heated Exterior Mirrors
      • Power Exterior Mirrors
      • Dual Front Airbags
      • Front and Rear Head Airbags
      • Auto-Dimming Inside Rearview Mirror
      • Power Door Locks
      • Front Side Airbags
      Seating:
      • Driver Seat Power Adjustments
      • Bucket Front Seats
      • Passenger Seat Power Adjustments
      • Bench Rear Seat
      • Split-Bench Rear Seat
      • Leather Upholstery

      Installed Options
      Appearance /
        Exterior:
      • Metallic Paint
        Drivetrain /
          Suspension:
        • 5-Speed Automatic Transmission
          Entertainment /
            Telematics:
          • CD Changer
          • Compact Disc Changer
          • MP3 Player - CD MP3 Playback
          • Premium Audio System
          • Radio - AM/FM
          • Telematics System
          Rims / Tires:
          • 18 Inch Wheels
            Roof / Glass:
            • Front Wipers - Rain Sensing
            • Power Moonroof
            Seating:
            • Heated Front Seats
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              Dealership Information
              Ultimate Motorsports
              Main Phone:(281) 506-8808
              Alt. Phone:(281) 657-7293
              Email:sales@ultimatems.com
              Business Hours:
              Weekdays:9:00 AM to 7:00 PM
              Saturday:10 TO 5PM
              Sunday:CLOSED
              Location:
              10311 Altonbury Lane
              Houston, TX 77031
              Map of Ultimate Motorsports at 10311 Altonbury Lane, Houston, TX 77031
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              Standard Terms & conditions
               

              PLEASE READ CAREFULLY! BY SUBMITTING A BID, MAKING AN OFFER OR CLICKING THE BUY IT NOW YOU ARE AGREEING TO THE FOLLOWING TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

              Fee and Tax Information: All Texas residents will pay 6.25% state sales tax and $ 133 Title Fee. This only applies to Texas Residents ONLY! Out of State customer only pay :

              All sales are subject to Texas V.I.T. tax based at a rate of .002834% of purchase price and $395.00 Processing fee.

              PAYPAL IS FOR DEPOSITS ONLY. WE DO NOT ACCEPT FULL PAYMENTS THOUGH THE PAYPAL.

              FINANCING IS AVAILABLE WITH APPROVED CREDIT (WAC) ONLY ! ALL BUY IT NOW PRICES LISTED ARE FOR CASH BUYERS OR IF CUSTOMERS ARRANGE THEIR OWN FINANCING !!!

              IF YOU CHOOSE TO CLICK THE BUY IT NOW OPTION YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PICK UP THE VEHICLE LOCALLY AND ADDRESS ANY ISSUES BEFORE THE VEHICLE LEAVES THE LOT.

              Please contact SALES@ultimatems.com or 281-657-7293
              Winning bidder must contact us within 24 hours of auction end, and make arrangements for payment at that time. A $500.00 NON REFUNDABLE deposit is due within 24 hours of end of auction. The remainder is due within 7 days of Auction end. If no contact is made within 24 hours we reserve the right to re-list the vehicle, sell it to the next high bidder, or sell it otherwise.  Most banks and credit unions do not finance vehicles older than 2002 or with more than 100K miles. Make sure if financing, your financial institution accepts the year and miles of this vehicle before bidding. Please arrange financing prior to bidding.
              Buyer is responsible for pickup or shipping of this vehicle. If you wish to have it shipped using a service, we will gladly cooperate, you can locate shippers by doing a search for `auto shippers`.
              If you are not sure about something, Please ASK. Do not assume anything not listed is included. We reserve the right to cancel bids for excessive negative feedback. We reserve the right to end the listing if the vehicle is no longer available for sale.
              Please do not bid on this auction unless you are serious about owning this vehicle.  All non-paying high bidders will be reported to Ebay, and negative feedback posted.
              PLEASE ONLY BID WHAT YOU ARE WILLING TO PAY.  IF THE RESERVE IS NOT MET, WE MAY CONTACT THE HIGH BIDDER TO OFFER THE SECOND CHANCE OPTION.
              By placing a bid on this vehicle you are entering into a legal and binding contract to purchase the above-described vehicle. We reserve the right to cancel all existing bids and end the auction early should the item no longer be available for sale.
              By bidding and buying this auction, you enter a contract that you have read and understood all the terms and conditions of this auction. 
              We reserve the rights to sell the car outside the ebay auctions. We reserve the right to end the auction anytime. We reserve the right to cancel any bid from any bidder. 
              This vehicle is being sold as is, where it is with no warranty, expressed written or implied. In either case, The seller shall not be responsible for the correct description, authenticity, genuineness, or defects herein, and makes no warranty in connection therewith. No allowance or set aside will be made on account of any incorrectness, imperfection, defect or damage. Any descriptions or representations are for identification purposes only and are not to be construed as a warranty of any type. It is the responsibility of the buyer to have thoroughly inspected the vehicle, and to have satisfied himself or herself as to the condition and value and to bid based upon that judgment solely. The seller shall and will make reasonable effort to disclose any known defects associated with this vehicle at the buyer's request prior to the close of sale. Seller assumes no responsibility for any repairs regardless of any oral statements about the vehicle.
              Please understand that the vehicles are Pre-Owned vehicles and at times, the vehicles may come without accessories such as extra keys, cd magazines, navigation discs, floormats, tools, and owner's manuals. Please call for the exact accessories included for the vehicle. 
              Buyer's are responsible for shipping costs.
              All bidders should have all questions answered and loans pre-approved before bidding. Please note that Non paying buyers would be handled by our attorney. Remember buying a car on eBay is legal binding contract.

              All vehicles are sold "AS IS". This is in full accordance with the laws of the State of TEXAS regarding motor vehicle sales. You the buyer/bidder must have a complete understanding that this vehicle is used and we do not know the complete history of this vehicle. We are presenting this vehicle to the best of our knowledge. The accuracy of our description is based on any and all information that we were able to obtain concerning this vehicle either by records, previous owners statements, or other statements if any made by the persons who sold or traded in this vehicle. We ULTIMATE MOTORSPORT Inc or any of its employees or agents will not be held responsible. All buyers are responsible for having an independent inspection completed on their vehicle of inetrest prior to sale or close of auction. You are welcome to fly in or schedule a inspection with several companies in Houston area to have a car professionally inspected.

              WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY REPAIRS OR INSPECTIONS PRIOR OR AFTER THE SALE OF AN AUTOMOBILE. ALL VEHICLES SOLD AS IS WHERE IS !!

              WE WELCOME INSPECTIONS BUT PLEASE DO INSPECTIONS BEFORE THE SALE IS CONFIRMED ! 

              This Agreement will be governed the laws of the State of Texas (without regard to principals of conflict of laws). Any claims arising out of or related to this Agreement or the Goods shall be brought exclusively in Harris County, Texas. Bidder submits to the jurisdiction of all such courts. BIDDER AND SELLER HEREBY WAIVE ANY RIGHT TO TRIAL BY JURY IN ANY ACTION TO ENFORCE, DEFEND, CONSTRUE OR OTHERWISE CONCERNING THIS AGREEMENT OR THE GOODS. If it is necessary for bidder to commence litigation to enforce any portion of this Agreement, Seller will be entitled to recover from Bidder its reasonable attorneys’ fees and costs, including the reasonable fees of in-house counsel.

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