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1968 Pontiac Gto Orig. 4-speed With Bench Seat. Ca Lic: Blue Plate: Mrgto68 on 2040-cars

US $12,500.00
Year:1968 Mileage:90000
Location:

Mountain View, California, United States

Mountain View, California, United States

I have decided to sell my beloved Goat. It deserves a new lease on life that I simply can't give it at this time.  I have kept it in storage since the judge ordered me to stop street racing with it in 1990. It was stored inside (Northern Kalifornika) until about 5 years ago; since then it has been under a car cover in the San Fransicko Bay Area/Silicon Valley. 

I have been saving it in the hopes of it being a father & son project in the future...but alas, such is not to be.

- MAKE/MODEL:  
PONTIAC GTO ; The Original "Muscle Car".  The first production car to have an impact absorbing bumper. This is originally a 4 speed manual car with the bench seat option (bucket -delete) ...buckets are overrated...a bench is nice for cruising with your girl. The pedals are still configured for a stick but the original transmission is not included (the muncie was sent to transmission heaven long ago).

Casting occurred: oct or nov 16th 1968
1969 370hp 4bolt main 428 from a Gran Prix. Originally slated for an automatic.
Engine ID#: 0279037 XF : 1968 granprix, automatic, 370hp 4 bolt mains, Armasteel Crankshaft
Engine casting: 9792968 P
Date code: K168 : Nov 16th 1968
Heads casting: 62
Heads date code: K188 : Nov 18th 1968



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- YEAR: 
1968

- LICENSE PLATE (both):
Old school Blue California plate "MRGTO68"

- CONDITION:
Rough but promising. The body is in okay condition; there is rust in the rear deck (normal area this occurs: around the lower edge of the rear glass), the front floorboards are rusted, and there is some lower quarter rust. The hood has a tach hole carved in it for a judge hood-tach (not included)...I didn't do it; it occurred pre-me :-)

Needs tires, existing tires are rollers only; the rims are pretty clean Centerlines; 16 inches (16" rims).

Engine and tranny not in car; about 5K miles on a VERY high quality rebuild (see below for more detail).  There is NO transmission, bell housing, flywheel, or shifter included with this sale; except the Getrag 420G (via the BuyItNow price).

- MAINTENANCE NEEDS: This is a project car, so it needs body work, interior...pretty much everything except an engine rebuild.  The Endura Bumper is in good shape. not perfect, but not bad either. The rear bumper will need re-chroming and clean up.

OTHER DETAILS:
The  engine is a 428HO from a 67 Grand Prix, in really good condition; mild cam, great pistons (drilled oil drain holes rather than slotted; slotted tend to collapse), the engine is punched out to 440 cubic inches (439.8 I believe); 10.2:1 compression (forged pistons were milled and the chambers finished; it is precisely 10.2 in all cylinders). The engine is balanced to a *VERY high degree*.  It has an Armasteel crankshaft and nodular iron rods that have been finished and peened (de-stressed).  It has a Cadillac two piece silicone rear main seal (as opposed to the stock rope seals).

Heads are *professionally* mildly ported (pockets and valve bosses), with the stock machined combustion champers having been balanced (matched); #62 heads with crane cams roller rockers and screw-in studs; beefy pushrods (I do not recall the brand).  I am pretty sure the rocker ratio is 1.5:1 but they might be 1.6's (it was a long time ago). I do not recall the exact details of the cam, but it has moderate lift and overlap, and a really nice idle (lumpy but not overt). It also has Rhoads variable lifters (hydraulic lifters)...allowing a lumpier cam with decent idle vacuum. 

The engine was built by Steve Santos; he was a legend in the Northern California roundy-round (circle track) scene.  The engine made 526hp at the wheels, and with the 3.23:1 gears on a 12 bolt (chevy) positraction rear, it ran mid 12's @113mph quarter mile times (on F70-14 skinny street tires...through the mufflers); this was on pump gas (92/93 octane).  It was a runner...but a daily driver. Running her on 115 octane ERC racing fuel awakens A BEAST....it lets you turn up the spark advance to ~31 degrees and rewards you with POWER (think "Thor's Hammer"). :-)))  

It comes with a nice 750 holley double pumper, an electronic distributor and MSD ignition control.  

Factory Engine Details:
 

The original bench seat frame is in good shape but the upholstery is shot. Back seats are better but you'll probably want to re-do it too.  The interior color is a pearlescent white (I forget the official name).

If you select the BuyItNow option, after confirmed payment, I will include a CHERRY (less than 20K miles on it) close ratio 6 speed tranny from a 2003 BMW M5 (Getrag 420G) for it (price those out...new they are 5K, quality rebuilds are about $3K-4K and 100K mile versions go for $1K); I have been working on designing an adapter for it.  As it turns out, the BMW 850CSi clutch is the same size as the stocker Poncho clutch :-)  SpecClutch.com has the know-how to build the clutch; I would have them cut a flywheel for it too... and they have the proper reamer for the the BMW input shaft (don't use a Ford clutch disk, the splines are close but not exact and spalling/wear *WILL* occur).

I think I have some misc. original tinted glass pieces for it in storage as well.  If you do the BuyIt Now, I will throw in whatever I can find for it. 

I lived for racing in the 80's...The Goat was well known on the street scene in Fremont California back then :-)  It didn't lose very often on the street. The goat was a regular at Fremont Raceway's  (Baylands Quartermile Dragstrip) Wednesday Grudge Nights. The announcer once said "it looks like a sleeper but when it wakes up, its one MEAN OLD GOAT!" I have a picture somewhere of the 60 foot light shining UNDER the left front tire!  The engine is a torque monster!

This car was built as an old school street racer from day one... I can tell you a zillion stories about this car, cruising for street races in Modesto, Fremont, Hayward, San Mateo, Sonoma, Santa Clara, and a bunch of other local strips in northern California.

It was build at the GM Factory in Fremont California...it is called "Tesla Motors" now...It is the factory where they build the Tesla Model S sedan.  

Please ping me for more questions.  Contact me for more pics; I only had these when I posted this.

NO WARRANTY EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED.  

Money Transfer, Cash, Cashiers Check only.  I will not release the car, nor other components, until the check has *cleared* in my bank (after your identity is confirmed).  

$500 PayPal deposit or other (as listed above) deposit payment is required within 3 day of purchase.

If you want to have a car carrier pick it up, I will facilitate the pickup, but *PLEASE NOTE*: You *NEED* to tell the transporter the vehicle is rolling but *not running*...Otherwise, many of them will not pick it up. If applicable, I will put all the misc. extras inside the car.


I am selling the Goat, the 428, and the tranny separately on Craigslist, so I must to reserve the right cancel the auction in case of a sale through the local outlet. those prices are: 
Goat (no motor or trans): $6500
428: $4500
Tranny: $2000



Thanks for having a look.

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