I will not email
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It's an Auction! That means . . .
it's your
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Also, if yours is among the hundreds of emails I get with
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assume that you(r):
•
have not
taken time to read the listing
•
have
zero intent to purchase
• are
clueless about relevant market values
• forthcoming "offer" will be completely detached from
reality
26
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enough on their own and feel confident making a real
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without haggle. Try me.
Our presentations are unequalled, on eBay or anywhere
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We are therefore, usually able to choose from among
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THE ONLY WAY TO WORK YOUR DEAL IS TO CALL ME!
My
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That is the magic of an eBay auction . . . serious
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If
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1971 Oldsmobile
4-4-2 W-30
VIN: 344871M141233
Currently Showing on Odometer: 63,753 (exempt)
Engine: 455 cubic inch V8
Transmission: 3-Speed Turbo-Hydramatic 400
Exterior, Lower: Sierra (67) White Paint Stripes (A)
Exterior, Upper: Sandalwood Vinyl Roof
(E)
Interior: Parchment Pearl Vinyl/Bucket Seats
(937)
Built: January 28, 1971 -
Lansing, Michigan
Over 201 high resolution pictures below.
Standard
Equipment
Strato Bucket Seats with
Bright Molding
Adjustable Headrests
Rosewood Dash and Side
Panels and Console Vinyl Trim
Deluxe Front and Rear
Armrests with Bright Molding and Backplates
Padded Dash
Cigar Lighter
Floor and Lower Door Panel
Carpeting
Body Side and Trunk Lid
Paint Stripes
Twin Recessed Black Out
Grilles
Exhaust Cut-Out Rear Bumper
Chrome Wheel Lip Molding
"442" Grille, Front Fender
and Trunk Badges
Hood, Drip and Trunk Lid
Edge Molding
Flo-Thru Ventilation
Rallye Heavy Duty Coil
Spring Suspension
Front and Rear Sway Bars
Heavy Duty Drive Shaft
Boxed Rear Lower Control
Arms
Full Dual Exhaust System
Full Size Spare on Matching
Super Stock I Wheel
Jack/Tools
Optional Equipment
Four-Season Air Conditioning
(C60)
4-Spoke Sport Steering Wheel
(N34)
Sport Center Console with
Locking Storage
(W26)
4-Way Power Driver's Seat
(A46)
Tilt Steering Wheel
(N33)
Trunk Light (U25)
Underhood Light (U26)
Glove Box Light (U27)
Rear Console Courtesy Light
Inside Rear View Mirror with
Integral Light (UF1)
Courtesy and Map Lights
(U29)
Pushbutton AM/FM Stereo
(U58)
8-Track Tape Player
(U57)
Rear Speaker (U80)
Interior Hood Lock
(T44)
Power Trunk Release
(A90)
Deluxe Lap and Shoulder
Belts (AK1)
Vinyl Roof (C08)
Soft-Ray Tinted Glass
(A01)
Electric Rear Defrost
(C49)
Rear Deck Spoiler
(W35)
Super Stock I Wheels
(P05)
Vario-Ratio Power Steering
(N47)
Power Front Disc Brakes
(JL2)
Trunk Liner and Mat
3.23 Performance
Axle (G91)
20-Gallon Fuel Tank
W-30 Performance Package
Rocket 455 Cubic Inch V8
Engine (factory blueprinted)
350 gross horsepower @ 4,700
(300 net)
460 ft-lb gross torque @
3,200 (410 net)
Force-Air Engine Induction
(W25)
Special Rochester Quadrajet
4-Barrel Carburetor
Aluminum Intake Manifold
Manual Front Disc Brakes
Dual Intake Force-Air
Fiberglass Hood with Rotary Hood Pins
"W-30" Front Fender Emblems
Special Body-Side Paint
Stripes
Red Front Fender Liners
Lightweight Body Insulation
Required with W30:
Heavy Duty 3-Speed Turbo-Hydramatic
400 Automatic Transmission (M40)
Hurst Dual Gate His and Hers
Shifter
Rocket Rallye Pac:
(U21)
Temperature, Fuel, Oil
Pressure, 120 MPH Speedometer and Tic-Toc-Tach Clock/7,000
RP Tachometer
Dual Sport Outside Mirrors
(D35)
Anti-Spin Rear Axle
(G80)
Aluminum Rear Differential
Cover (W27)
G70 x 14 Raised White Letter
Wide Oval Tires
Other Items
Carpeted Front and Rear
Floor Mats (442 front)
Dash Cover
Flowmaster Dual Exhaust
with Cross-Over
Firestone Wide O Oval
Super Sports Tires: F70-14 (front G70-14 (rear)
Backstory
from the owner...
Parsons
Auto Body performed the lengthy body and paint
restoration process for this exquisite
Oldsmobile and it was through him I learned that
a widow was finally prepared to sell her
husband's treasured 442. Negotiations were
delicate and necessarily unhurried and even
though I knew of the car, what I saw when it
first came to my store caught me by surprise.
In 2010 we sold a very expensive, white 1971 442
W-30 to Lingenfelter Motor Sports. Yes,
that Lingenfelter, and as grateful and
pleased as they were with it; that car could not
even begin to compare to the concours-level
quality of this stunning 442. I'm always
searching for top muscle cars and with my
assistant, (Foy) we look at and usually, walk
away from a lot of Detroit iron. I am
extremely picky and this rare Oldsmobile is
among the very few worthy my hard earned money.
Restoration experience, verifiable authenticity
and condition, condition, condition are
what matters. Torque monster muscle cars are not
always treated well, but a precious few are.
This 442 is an absolute knock-out to see
in person and as good as my pictures are,
they can't possibly show the true excellence this car
instantly conveys in real life. What
else could you want? A great deal? I
have that covered too but book values mean
nothing with a car of this caliber. You already know you
get what you pay for and if you want the
absolute best with no excuses, this 1971
Oldsmobile 442 W-30 is a once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity. Read what
Foy has to say about driving, researching and
getting to know this exceptional car. Examine
every picture in detail, see the amazing
condition, up close and personal and then make
your call and give me an offer. I promise,
you will not be disappointed.
Doug - Viva Las Vegas Autos, Inc.
Broadcast manifest with
matching Fisher body number and W30 RPO . . .
Ultra-Rare, Concours Quality 1971
Oldsmobile 442 W-30 •
Original, Numbers Matching, Professionally Rebuilt,
Strong 455 V8 Engine
• Original Numbers Matching, Perfect Shifting TH400
Automatic Transmission •
Body Stripped to Bare Metal •
Gorgeously Smooth, Color Matched Sienna Paint • Near
Perfect Exterior Chrome, Stainless and Die-Cast
• Showroom Fresh Interior • New
Steering System • New Suspension System • All New Brake
System From Pedal to Pads Including All New Lines • New Fuel
Tank • New Fuel Lines • Almost Every Available
Factory Option • Spectacular Performance • Functions and
Drives Like a Brand New Car
New bumper, crystal clear lenses, crisp
bezels and flawless grille definition means this front end
is ready for the sales brochure photo shoot. Cold air
conditioner, variable ratio power steering and power front
disc brakes means this show car is definitely no chore to
drive . . .
Everything was removed from the body
before being stripped to bare metal. Everything
reattached with new rubber, gaskets and seals.
Correctly dated glass is original as are the seatbelts . . .
Show winning paint is glass smooth
everywhere and there is absolutely no orange-peel, fish-eye,
dust or any other bug-a-boo anywhere on the car.
Superb panel alignment is consistent and unlike too many
restorations, stripe application (under the clear) is near
perfection . . .
Doors open easily, don't sag and close
solid. Side glass rolls up and down silky smooth.
Lock function is clean and positive. Hood and trunk
lid hardware is firm and tight. All bolts and
fasteners are clean and pretty . . .
New rear bumper, unclouded lenses and a
preview of how nice the undercarriage is . . .
Correct reproduction Firestone Wide Oval
tires look great in this smooth, unblemished view looking
down the side . . .
A lot of nice Detroit iron comes our way
and after so many years, I'm surprised to say that this 442
is one of the top two or three highest quality, restored
muscle cars I have ever seen. I can honestly
say too, that trophy winning good looks is only half the
story with this very rare classic. The seat I settle
into obviously has new foam and it immediately feels like
I'm in a new car. That impression continues when I
turn the key and the big 455 rumbles instantly to life.
The Flowmasters sound good and I tap the throttle one more
time (never get tired of hearing it) before pulling the "His
and Hers" shifter into Drive. On the street, anything
more than a light throttle produces instant wheel-spin and a
second gear chirp. The car tracks laser straight,
feels very composed and I've yet to hear a single rattle.
3/4 throttle from about 35 mph flattens me firmly against
the seat. I slow back down to about the same speed and
then nail it to the floor. The chirp this time is
louder as an avalanche of torque unweights the front
suspension and rockets the car forward. I back off at
an indicated 80 mph and no shake, vibration or pulling is
felt at any time. The power steering it light (typical
for the period) but there is virtually no play at all.
The suspension is controlled and confidence inspiring.
Slowing down on the off-ramp, I hold my hands up and the
power front disc brakes bring the car to a complete stop
without me touching the steering wheel. A solid, well
sorted car you will certainly want to take care of but when
the urge strikes, you'll feel no need to hold back.
This Oldsmobile perfectly captures everything I know and
love about old school, American performance and 1971 was the
last year for truly powerful muscle car intermediates.
Unlike other (less powerful, less attractive) places to park
your money, this Oldsmobile 442 W-30 is an investment you
can touch, sit in, drive and fall in love with. An
investment you won't mind being seen in and will always
be a top market car.
-Foy
Being stripped to bare metal and in the
paint booth . . .
Spectacular interior looks, feels and
functions like a new car. And it's loaded with
options: air conditioning, power driver's seat, tilt
steering, console, Rallye Pac cluster, am/fm stereo with
rear speaker, 8-track tape player, inside hood lock, sport
steering wheel and much more . . .
W-30 455s were factory blueprinted and were
upgraded with an aluminum intake manifold, performance
Quadrajet and a higher overlap cam.
Entire steering and suspension system are
new along with new fuel lines and brake lines . . .
Clean and dry undercarriage with new
springs, shocks, bushings and new fasteners throughout.
This also has a Flowmaster dual exhaust system with cross
over . . .
W-30 red fender liners and a smooth,
pretty frame . . .
VIN Decode:
344871M141233
division
3
Oldsmobile
series
44
4-4-2
body style
87
2-door hardtop Holiday coupe
mode year
1
1971
assembly plant
M
Lansing, Michigan
sequential production number
141233
cowl tag
71
model year 1971
937
Parchment Pearl vinyl, bucket
seat interior
3
Oldsmobile division
67
Sienna lower body color
44
4-4-2 series
E
Sandalwood vinyl roof
87
2-door hardtop Holiday coupe
01D
January (1971) 4th week build
date (actual build date: 1-28-17)
LAN
Lansing, Michigan assembly plant
B85
window sill molding
277179
Fisher body build number
(matches broadcast manifest)
original broadcast manifest
sequence
328
unknown
upper body
E
Sandalwood vinyl top
month
01
January
PP
2
??
day
28
28th day (1971)
RPO
A46
4-way power driver's seat
style
34487
Oldsmobile 4-4-2 hardtop Holiday
coupe
RPO
C60
air conditioning
option (RPO)
A01
tinted glass, all
RPO
W30
4-4-2 performance package
body number
277179
Fisher body build number
(matches cowl tag)
RPO
U57
8-track tape player
trim combination
937
Parchment Pearl (white) vinyl,
bucket seats
RPO
U58
am/fm stereo
lower body paint
67
Sienna
block casting: 396021F = 1970-72 455
engine stamp: 3
= Oldsmobile division; 1 =
model year 1971; M =
Lansing, Michigan assembly plant;
141233 = matching VIN derivative
141233 = VIN derivative oil fill tube
stamp
correct "H" ID code (left) and head
casting number: 409160 = W-30 455, big valve heads
transmission stamp:
1 = model year 1971;
M = Lansing, Michigan
assembly plant; 141233 =
matching VIN derivative
transmission tag:
71 = model year 1971;
OW = 4-4-2, W-30 and H/O
applications; 1793 = serial number
Rochester Quadrajet 7041257 RG 3630
70
1966-75
5
Oldsmobile
4
1970-75
7
odd numbers = manual
transmission, even = automatic
(unreliable, often inaccurate)
1
1971
RG
customer/plant code
2
Quadrajet 4-barrel,
Federal
3630
Julian code for December 29,
1970 build date
distributor code 1112034 exclusive to W-30
The large fuel filter to the left of the
oil fill tube was exclusive to W-30 455s.
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This vehicle is safely stored in
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General Motors today announced a truly massive recall covering some 8.4 million vehicles in North America. Most significantly, 8.2 million examples of the affected vehicles are being called back due to "unintended ignition key rotation," though GM spokesperson Alan Adler tells Autoblog that this issue is not like the infamous Chevy Cobalt ignition switch fiasco. For the sake of perspective, translated to US population, this total recall figure would equal a car for each resident of New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, the District of Columbia, Vermont and Wyoming. Combined. Here's how it all breaks down: 7,610,862 vehicles in North America being recalled for unintended ignition key rotation. 6,805,679 are in the United States.
The folks behind Generation Gap have lost their minds with this latest video. The goal here is to determine the ultimate family cruiser, but the choices are what you would least expect, with a heavily modded 1970 Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser going up against a 2012 Ferrari FF. You might anticipate an over-40-year-old Oldsmobile to pale in comparison to any modern Ferrari, but this wagon has a ton of secrets under its skin thanks to Lingenfelter. First, it packs a supercharged LS3 V8 with a claimed 650 horsepower and a six-speed manual gearbox. That big upgrade in power is further helped with air suspension and massive Wilwood disc brakes. The result is nothing short of deafening, with blaring yelps whenever the driver even nudges the accelerator. The alternative sounds just as good, albeit in very different way. The Ferrari's 6.3-liter V12 pumps out 651 hp and 504 pound-feet with a part-time all-wheel drive system. While the FF lacks a lot of the hauling ability of the Olds, it makes up for the deficit in handling, luxury, and in many eyes, simply by having the famous prancing horse on the grille.
The last time I roped a coworker into an automotive debate, I lost. Resoundingly, I might add. Still, 2,385 voters chose to cast their lots for the Fiat 500 Abarth, as opposed to 5,273 choosing the Ford Fiesta ST, and so I can rest easy in the knowledge that at least 30 percent of you, dear readers, see things my way. I still like to think we have more fun, too. My loss in the first round of our This or That series, in which two Autoblog editors pick sides on any given topic and then attempt to explain why the other is completely wrong, didn't stop me from picking another good-natured fight, this time with Senior Editor Seyth Miersma. Last time, our chosen sides were eerily similar in design, albeit quite different in actual execution. This time, our vehicular peculiarities couldn't seemingly fall any further from one another: A 1980 Oldsmobile 442 wouldn't seem to match up in comparison to a 1989 BMW 635CSi. How did we come up with such disparate contenders? Simple, really. Seyth and I mutually agreed to choose a car that's currently for sale online. It had to be built and sold in the 1980s, and it had to be a coupe. The price cap was set at $10,000. The fruits of our searching labors will henceforth be disputed, with Seyth on the side of the Germans, and myself arguing in favor of the Rocket Olds. Am I setting myself up for another lopsided loss?