Before we begin, I want you to know that
like you, I'm a classic car fanatic. I've also been an eBayer since 1998 and
take pride in only receiving positive feedback over the last 16+ years. I've owned dozens of cars over the years and
have made many sight unseen deals to acquire or sell cars across the country.
In addition, I strongly believe in the
saying "a picture is worth a thousand words." The Internet has
allowed us in our hobby to search for cars nationwide and it's my hope to make
you as comfortable as possible with this purchase. I am listing this car for a
close friend and I took all of the photographs and video. I have had the honor
of driving this piece of history, and can vouch for its condition. Please sit
back with your favorite beverage and enjoy the lengthy description, video
links, and 412 photos of this incredibly special car.
Here is an
opportunity of a lifetime to purchase an investment quality,unrestored, true
survivor, 1969 Ford Torino GT 428 Cobra Jet with under 36,000 original miles.
I've never seen a low mile, unrestored survivor Torino GT come up for sale, let
alone one with a factory 428 Cobra Jet. Can you already smell the leaded Sunoco
fuel in this Torino?
We all see so many
restored cars for sale that are either over-restored, reassembled with incorrect hardware and
inferior aftermarket parts, gloss black everything, or those that just don't
feel right when you drive them. There is a movement of appreciation for
unrestored survivors in our hobby and this Cobra Jet powered Torino represents
this movement perfectly.
I don't want to
overuse the saying "it's only original once", but we know it's true.
The survivors just seem to feel better, drive better, and in my opinion, look
better. Thankfully, the market is appreciating survivor muscle cars. If you're
on the fence with this purchase, ask yourself when you'll find another
unrestored example to put in your garage?
Finished in its
mostly original Lime Gold paint, this non ram air, bench seat Torino was built
to be the ultimate sleeper. Purchased new at Selig Ford on National Avenue in
West Allis, WI, I picture the original owner convincing his wife that he just
purchased a "family" car. Little did she know that under the hood was
Ford's baddest big block on the market, the legendary 428 Cobra Jet. Completely
underrated at the factory at 335 horsepower, most Ford lovers tout this fire
breathing dragon as the best street racing engine Ford ever built. Backed by a
C6 transmission, beefed up at the factory with heavy duty clutch packs and the
famous "R" servo, many people preferred these C6's over the 4 speed.
How many of these
428 CJ Torino GT's were made? Let's refer to the Marti report that will accompany
the car with the sale. The numbers show that just 701 of the 386,000
FairlaneTorinos made in 1969 had the Q code 428 Cobra Jet and only 410 of those
cars featured an automatic transmission.
For perspective, there were more 428 CJ powered Talladegas and Cobras
made in 1969 than there were Torino GT's with the same powerplant. Now, that's
rare!
This Torino GT
shows under 36,000 miles on the odometer. We don't have a paper trail with the
car, but please read on, study the photos, and we think you'll agree that there
is no doubt the mileage is original. The original exterior patina is consistent
with a low mileage car. The original interior shows like a 36,000 mile car,
with little pedal wear, consistent vinyl wear on the seats, carpet, etc.
Finally, the engine compartment photos will show the factory stapled valve
cover gaskets still in place (you never see this!!), many factory emissions hoses (radiator and heater hoses have been replaced), and original finish on the
engine block, etc.
Videos
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'69 Torino 428 CJ Cold
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'69 Torino 428 CJ History
'69 Torino 428 CJ Running
'69 Torino 428 CJ Driving
Mechanicals
Let's begin with
the mechanicals on the car. The factory 428 Cobra Jet starts, runs, and idles
incredibly well. Set the choke, turn the key, and it starts. Note in the video
that the choke steps on the 735 cfm Holley still operate like they should too!
After a warm-up,
this low mile Cobra Jet is ready for whatever duty you give it. This Torino
will cruise around town all day without giving you the grief a 429 may give you
at low speeds. But, lay into the throttle, and this well-tuned 428 Cobra Jet
will show you who's boss in a hurry. This is not a car for the faint of heart.
For those not
familiar with the beefed up C6 transmission designed for these Cobra Jets,
they're phenomenal as well. The heavy duty clutch packs allow for quick, no
delay shifts. The famous R servo on these transmissions is also really neat. If
you haven't driven a car with one, the R servo helps provide super positive
shifts, which almost seem to throw the car forward.
Note the photos of
the countless original parts on the car, but also note that a few items, like the
starter, brake booster & master cylinder, and shocks have been replaced.
We'll let the
videos show the rest. The Torino accelerates smoothly and handles like a low
mileage car should. The steering is incredibly tight and there is little wind
noise in the car, as noted in the videos. The period correct Mickey Thompson
F70 bias plys have good rubber, track well and aren't noisy. The bottom line is
this is the nicest original intermediate sized car I've ever driven. Seriously,
it drives that nicely.
Numbers
Ok, let's talk
numbers. The 428 block is date coded 8L25, which we believe translates to the
25th day of December, 1968. This coincides with the January 1969 build date of
the car. One the rear pad, we were unable to get the camera to take a photo of
the very light VIN stamping. What can be made out with the naked eye, is 9K.
The next couple digits are stamped too lightly to make out, but the next
readable digit is a 1. Add in the factory overspray on various parts in the
engine compartment and there's no doubt in my mind the engine is original to
the car. In the photos, please note the 428 Cobra Jet only power steering cooler, as well as the correct 428 Cobra Jet distributor.
The transmission
photos show a code of PGB AG, which is correct for a '69 Cobra Jet car, with a
column shift. The VIN code stamp on the C6 tranny is on top and cannot be
photographed installed in the car. The odds of this
transmission ever being replaced has to be near zero, as the PGB AG code is so
specific to this car. Also note the cast iron tailshaft, which was also only
available on these C6's mated to 428 CJ's, as well as the yellow painted dipstick tube that can be seen in the photos.
Out back, note
that the rear end has the correct "N" stamped nodular case and
features the correct 31 spline axle, as evidenced in the photo showing the three holes in the hub.
I've tried to take
photos of all other parts with numbers under the hood, so please take some time
to check things out.
Exterior
This Torino GT is
gorgeous in the photos and videos, but honestly looks even better in person.
The Lime Gold paint still has excellent glossy luster and is mostly original to
the car.
We know that 20+
years ago, the far lower quarter panel on the passenger side has had a small
patch. This is evident in the photos where a factory indentation on the lower
quarter appears on the driver's side, but not on the passenger side. The
current owner has known of this car for nearly 20 years and the patch has been
there as long as he's known of the car. The paint color match is excellent and
an untrained eye won't catch that a patch was ever put in place.
We also suspect
there's been some other minor touch-ups on the lower panels of the car, as
there are a couple spots where you can feel evidence of a mask line along the
C-stripe. Again, most people won't even catch this, but we want to be upfront
with what we know about the car.
We will let the
photos do most of the talking, but please note the following highlights:
- The original
trim on the car is VERY nice, as seen in the photos
- Notice
the "modeling" patina of the factory metallic paint...I love it!
- Note
the halogen replaced, but correct, Ford script headlights
- The
front and rear bumpers have been rechromed
- All
glass is correct and in extraordinary condition
- The
original grill is gorgeous and has just one crack on the passenger side
- The
trunk floor is solid and factory Ford metal
- The factory original spatter paint trunk mat also looks very nice (see the part number in the photos). Note the
spare tire and jack assembly too!
Interior
The original black
interior in this Torino is nothing short of spectacular. Those of you in the
know will see that the seat pattern is the '68 style. However, the seats have
headrests, which is correct for '69. The seat covers are Ford original and the
seat bolts show no signs of ever being removed. We've chalked this up as a
factory anomaly and a cool talking point with the car. Please note the
following while studying the interior photos:
- The
dash is beautiful! I'll let the pictures show it off
- Note
how nice the chromed plastic bezels are on the gauge cluster are. So many of these are worn and turn white.
- The
car was originally a radio delete. We suspect the owner wanted some tunes and
had the dealer install a factory radio, correct antenna, and speaker
- Note
how nice the original Sports Roof package tray lays. It's nice and flat with no
evidence of rear window leakage
- The front and rear seat vinyl is incredibly soft and shows very little wear at all
- The
interior smells original. This is a compliment and you Ford nuts know what I'm
talking about!
- The
doors shut like it's 1969. The unrestored cars only seem to do this
Undercarriage
This beauty is as
honest underneath as it is up above. As most Wisconsin cars were, this Torino
was undercoated new. As it probably saw a few winters, the undercoating went a
long way to protect this car. However, please note in the photos that the outer
wheel well housings have some rust. This is cosmetic and can only be seen on a
lift, but again, we want to represent this car properly. In addition, please
note the following in the photos:
- The
car has newer exhaust, with Flowmaster mufflers. Note the NOS chrome tips!
- The
seat mount reinforcement areas are very nice and aren't blown out like so many we see on the road. This is a common area for
rust!
- The
original floors and subframe are also nice and just have some flaky
undercoating and light surface rust
- The
gas tank has been replaced due to too much sediment in the original
Bottom Line
After looking at
the videos and 412 photos of this piece of Ford history, please don't hesitate
to contact the owner with any questions. Mike can be reached via telephone at
414-651-3856 until 9:00 p.m. central time.
This is a Marti
Report backed, legitimate, '69 Torino GT 428 Cobra Jet survivor with under
36,000 miles. Own a piece of muscle car history.
Sale Terms and Conditions
Please let the 412 photos of this piece of
history make you comfortable with a purchase. However, don’t hesitate to call
me with a specific question. Please remember that your bid is a COMMITMENT TO
BUY this car. Because opinions of vintage cars can vary, please have the car
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bidders to follow through on their commitment if you bid.
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implied. If you haven't owned a classic car, this isn't a 2012 Honda Civic.
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